hello im one of the member of Francswiss and im worried Because I encashed the money last monday and till now I did not Recieve any ? = ( and the site is always down .... help what will i do ???? GRABENG LOKOHAN TO!
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Baka ito ang makakasagot sa mga tanong mo na hindi masagot ng 鈥?tangang mga upline daw鈥?
meron akong findings on how these on-line investment runs:
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sa maniwala kayo o hindi, mapapaisip din kayo after reading this article.
1. and FS ay pinapa takbo ng 8 batikang mga networkers from closed MLM
2. they funded this company, started P50,000 each...
鈥?bought PC units for the internet set-up
鈥?hired people (ITs) to make the website look good and set up the system.
鈥?based lang ito sa pilipinas kasi na trace ng friend ko nag we-web design.. sa cavite lang daw ang IP address ng francswiss. (.com / .biz /.org / .net )
鈥?hindi lang ang FS ang ganito ang style - SM fund (manila based), Global America, Euro, etc.... madami yan!!! Pareho lang ang laro nila.
鈥?bumili sila ng software na syang magpapatakbo ng automatic calculations of e-points.
鈥?pinaganda nila ang website 鈥?para magmukang gawa sa singapore and US but hindi tutuo yan, gawa lang yan ditto.
鈥?Then, kunyari bumili sila ng e-points sa Singapore at US at dinala dito sa pinas. ang tutuo nyan, hindi sila naglabas ng pera. madali lang gawin ang first 1 million epoints sa system na gamit nila. then binenta nila ito sa mga networkers $1.00 per 1 e-point, eh di kumita kaagad sila ng $1,000,000.00 (or P47,000,000.00). bilis kita noh?. simple calculation lang yan but they can actually make as much as e-points as they want. Then sell it to people. Eh diba 8 sila? So they had 1million e-points each. Ganun kadali gumawa ng business na ito. May friend ako na marunong gumawa ng web at alam nya paano ang operations ng system na ito, pero ayaw nya syempre magsimula ng kalokohan na ganito.
3. then next, yung mga bumili ng 1000 e-points (mga na-recruit) will earn 4.5 percent a day so they will earn more e-points a day (FSDI). Kunyari dollars yun $45 a day. So padami ng padami ang epoints nila para ibenta din sa ibang downlines.
4. ENCASHMENTS: syempre, ganito yan, noong bago pa ang FS. Kunti pa lang ang networkers ang sumali. They mano-mano to deposit cash direct to the member鈥檚 account. Dati, 2 days lang, nasa bank mo na. so maniniwala talaga ang mga bagong recruits na okay ito kasi na-e-encash ang pera. Then napansin ninyo now, marami ang nag papa encash online. Pero 10 days na wala parin. May na meet ako 15 days na, di pa sya naencashed. May isa, mag 20 days na di pa naka encashed kasi hindi pumasok sa banko. Then sinasabi ng mga uplines, 鈥渨ag mo lagyan ng dash ang account number, kasi kung meron, hindi ma-eencash鈥?that鈥檚 a lie. Ang dali basahin ang number. Any system can read numbers. Simpleng calculator nga marunong mag add, yun pa kayang mas hi-tech na system na gamit nila. Ayaw lang talaga nila mag-encash. Ako nag pa encash ng $50 from my FSDI (francswiss daily interest) since june 28, now wala parin. Sige lang, I-annouce ko pag n-encash na. saying din yun. P2350 yun. Ilang pirasong lenchon manok ng andoks or baliwag din yun, then may sukli pa pambili ng coke.
5. EPOINTS: kailangan talaga nila ng new recruits to sell their accumulated e-points (or trade into real dollar bills). Ganito lang ka simple ang business 鈥?鈥渒ung walang new recruit, walang bibili ng e-points, then walang perang papasok, so Walang dollars鈥? Some uplines would buy epoints from you (that鈥檚 good at least meron), kasi nag rerecruit sila, at kinukulang sila ng e-points for new sign-ups. So literally, kumita karin kasi binili nila (uplines) ang e-points from you then pera ng downlines yung binayad sayo. Di nyo ba naisip yan?!!!!
6. SEC REG: Securities and Exchange Commission was alarming people about this investment. Well, they were just concerned to all citizens. That鈥檚 right! But kung totoo talagang sa US ang office ng francswiss, then the Philippine gov鈥檛 has no jurisdictions over on-line business and has no right to imprison people for joining this business. Their role is to warn people but not to dictate what the people will do with their money. Again 鈥淭HEIR MONEY鈥? But on the other side, if this francswiss and other online companies were based in the Philippines, they should go through legal process 鈥?start right and definitely the company will run on the right path. As I have said ******, if this FS is based in the US or Singapore, then our country has no right to stop this. They can warn but not stop this. But sa una kung paniniwala, ang FS ay based lang sa cavite. If you don鈥檛 believe me, try to research and investigate.
7. BSP鈥檚 WARNING: 鈥淒ON鈥橳 THINK TWICE, JUST SAY NO!!!鈥?br>
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-next i will post who and where are these people behind... *watch for it! You're always going to have that kind of problem with HYIP..Francswiss isn't listed as a scam yet, but eventually it will be. Companies like that come and go. My best advice would be to you, if you cannot afford to lose your money get out of the game while you still have the chance, that is if you do indeed still have it. Hi reesie
I think, you may tray to find out the answer at TG (www.talkgold.com) A lot of people are now having problems with regard to receiving withdrawals. For now, there is nothing you can do but wait -- and hope for the best. FrancSwiss is not a scam but it will soon be. Read the sources below: A High Yield Investment Program, or HYIP, is a type of pyramid scheme normally offered via the Internet. HYIPs typically accept deposits as low as $1 while promising astoundingly high returns..
Online High Yield Invetment Program rarely last for the long term. Overwhelming number of cases suggest that HYIPs are Ponzi schemes, in which new investors provide the cash to pay a profit to existing investors, which they typically then withdraw. This approach allows the scam to continue as long as new investors are found and/or old investors leave their money in the scheme, known as compounding (because even higher profits are promised).
The introduction of e-currencies has made it possible for a High Yield Investment Program to operate on the internet and cross international boundaries, and to accept large numbers of small investments. A High Yield Investment Program usually accept deposits by either e-currency, like e-gold, e-bullion and INTGold, or use specialist third party payment processors like AlertPay, SolidTrustPay, CEPTrust, TriStarMoneyChangers and StormPay. HYIPs typically offer a significant incentive commission (for example, 9% of invested funds) for members to attract and refer new investors.
A High Yield Investmet Program discloses little or no detail about the underlying management, location, or other aspects of how money is to be invested, and relatively little information (other than asserting that they do various types of trading on various stock and other exchanges) on how they actually generate the returns they purport. They are sometimes presented with some form of an emotional appeal, appeals for faith, and promises that they will help investors achieve financial freedom. hi im just wondering...wat type of bank account did you open and with what bank? is this your first withradawl? just relax.. the server is down for maintenance which means francswiss is upgrading due to the increasing popularity. this is a worldwide server and it can't be down for long because the US Market is also waiting. once the server is up then our encashments will be processed and the accumulated interested will reflect. just have a little faith. How Francswiss and other scams will be played?
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1) Operator is always around to answer questions. He is as helpful as he can be. Intense promotion such as advertisements, text, roadshows, blog sites, will be used. Credible people from banking sector, movie industry and other "honest credible people" will be tapped by the operators.
2) Many people post that they have been paid. Moderators are looked up to. There is a cult-like atmosphere. Cheerleaders post that admin is honest and good.
3) People become even more trusting with their money, especially if there is a guarantee in the TOS. The wheels of the scam really start to turn as more and more people join the dream.
4) Cheerleaders praise the admin. Everyone is happy and friendships are made. Poor people are gifted in by generous benefactors.
5) Payments start to slow. Your payment was almost a week late. Not to worry. Admin says there just aren't enough hands or hours in the day to pay all the people. Or the server is in need of a better upgrade please bear with us. In the meantime, cheerleaders continue to encourage more money to be put in the scam while administrator delays in paying the promised interest to earn more.
6) Payments slow more and more. The excuse that there isn't enough egold(ecash) might be used. Sporadic updates by admin that can be interpreted a hundered different ways are given to try and squash the impending mutiny. The optimist will still encourage people not to worry and not to panic and even entice people to invest and take the risk because it is worth it.
7) Maybe another payment processor is the answer! Switch to IntGold, NetPay, etc. or another mode of payment atm,etc. Cheerleaders praise admin for his ability to get through such a tough time. "We are back in business!" How stressful it must be!
8) A few payments go out, but they are almost at a stand-still. An unhappy member posts that they haven't been paid in weeks. That post gets deleted. Some heretics even get banned, only for repeatedly asking where the money is. Moderators begin to get edgy and members are confused. Cheerleaders cheer all the harder in hopes they will get paid even if no one else is, just because they had "faith".
9) Admin is jetsetting around the globe and can't be bothered to deal with miscreants and small set-backs. A new payment script is being worked on. The HYIP is being pushed to the scam folder at other forums. Hmmmm...what is really going on?
10) No payments to anyone. Moderators are left alone to delete posts. Where is admin? Cheerleaders say not to worry. This admin has integrity and cares about the members. Another update sooooon!!!
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There are sometimes more twists and turns and drama, but in the end there is always someone who loses their money.
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BSP, AMLC, SEC, NBI Well you people pretty much know the answer!!! It's all over the news....most of you can now kiss your hard-earned/borrowed money goodbye! Another job well done! Hahahahaha! Buti nga ikaw last Monday lang, I had an encashment last June 25 and till now, it was not credited on my account. I was realy puzzled kasi yung encashment ko nang June 26 and 27 were credited. I work in the bank where they deposited the money and so I checked it, turned out, it was just a cash deposit from our other branches. If that money was from outside country, it would have a different description. Nagumpisa nako kabahan regarding FS. Hear people saying that FS will not last long But I didn't expect it this fast. Kung tutuusin, kung idedeposit lang nila lahat nung encashment ko, kahit papaano, malapit ko na mabawi yung investment ko, but they didn't. For days, I'm still hoping that makunsensya sila and just deposit the encashments. But right from the start, I've set my mind that I gambled these money, wala akong dapat sisihin kung hindi sarili ko if it's gone. Honestly, at first, I was hesitant. Buti nalang at naghati kami nung friend ko, kung hindi, half of my hard earned money is gone. Sabi nga nila, sino ba naman ang hindi gustong kumita. The problem is ilagay mo sa bank yung pera mo, barya barya ang kinikita that's why people are really attracted to this kind of stuff.
All I can say is we hope that they will credit our encashments, well if not, just accept the fact that we are one of the loosers.
You can also file a complaint on the person who recruited you or their uplines . It's up to you.
In my case, I'll just shut up because I heard some news regarding people who entered in FS. I don't want to be a part of it.
Goodluck to all FS investors. try nyo nalang visit to www.freedom.ws at www.my.ws
type nyo sa access code INCOMESOLVE I am also an investor, just joined 06/01/07. I also tried to do my 1st encashment on 06/16/07. Till this date I have not received it. I only know of people in the Philippine's getting paid, not in the States.
I was able to call the US phone number on the website last week, once it was up and operating again, with little rectification. I was told it would be directed to the finance department and someone would get back to me. Not to my surprise no one responded or no credit to either account was done.
Now no site. Oh well I knew is was a gamble....To bad. my account really looked good! The joke here in the United States was ...It's just Monopoly Money. nothing. what you have invested is all gone! You should have known better. Where can you invest and get a return of 135% in ONE MONTH! Even if it's a year, it will still be suspicious! If that kind of business is sustainable, BILL GATES is in the wrong business Well, as far as I know, encashment from Bank outside the Philippines usually takes a month routine , even from other business transactions I had. What you can do is verify from your bank where you transfer such fund because they have the routing code / bank for that. I'm talking about the regular business transaction not for francswiss.. hi,
im one of he investor. im very worried right now because i invested 10000usd. and the server is always down |
