Which is a better investment for the long haul say 20 years? GE or Toyota Hi,
Neither. These are not growth stocks.
If I were young, I would be investing in small cap growth mutual funds or stocks. Go here for excellent low cost advice (http://www.aaii.com/aaiiportfolios/comme...
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You have lots of time before retirement which means the magic of compound interest will just keep building and building. It really works and if you keep investing every year, in 10 or 15 years you will be surprised at how it mounts up. In 30 years you could be a millionaire which probably won't amount to much in 30 year owing the the ravages of inflation.
By that time you will need a money manager like Fisher Investments to manage your money - probably before when you reach the $500,000 mark.
And that's the primary reason to keep investing in small cap growth stocks - they will flog inflation to death.
When investing in mutual funds, select the no-load funds only. Do not invest in mutual funds with a "load", an up front commission that you have to pay before when they sell you the mutual fund. Some charge as much as 10% which is a rrip-off. Many studies have shown that the no-load funds do as well as the load funds and sometimes a lot better.
Look at the AAI Shadow Stock Portfolio. I would try and emulate that portfolio if you want to invest in stocks. It was up 25% as of November 2006. The Vanguard Index fund is only up 14%.
AAII has some of the best financial advisers and the cost is very low. They have excellent guides and advice.
You may need a broker so go to e-Trade or Scottsdale who have low commission rates.
Do your own due diligence. Your own ideas are the best. Do not depend on someone else to select investments for you. Learn about investing so you don't have to ask what stocks to invest in.
Be self reliant.
Remember what Emerson said: A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines. With consistency a great soul has simply nothing to do.
Find stocks that have steadily rising net profits (earnings), low debt, and good P/Es, lots of cash, companies buying back their stock..
What interests you? Find stocks that pique your interest and passion.
You need fast growing good stocks with good earnings and in good sectors. You need to learn more about the stock market before you even think about investing in it.
The stocks world is divided into 12 sectors such as energy which chevron belongs to. It is next to last in the sectors list today.
Technology is numero uno, but things can change in a new york minute, but within the sector, the fastest growing are computer services, not Microsoft. Then, Electronic Instruments and controls. Next is computer storage devices.
The next hot sector is Healthcare, but heed the warning below. Go here for sectors: (http://clearstation.etrade.com/cgi-bin/I...
The best software is Vector Vest if you can afford it. It has sector investing.
Here is a free Web site for charting stocks: (http://www.incrediblecharts.com/).
First of all, stay away from "professional brokers" and tips coming to you via e-mail or friends and acquaintances. And tips at Yahoo! Answers. And e-mail tips. Do your own due diligence - don't rely on someone else. Read Emerson's essay "Self Reliance.
Hey! They will say anything to get you to buy their junk. If it's too good to be true, it is.
Remember this, they are just sales people trying to sell you what their firm is pushing. They are not security analysts or financial planners, not even financial advisers. Trust me, I know from experience that they cannot be trusted especially with a million dollars. You risk losing it all. A million dollar account is known as a "whale" and they would love to get their greedy little paws on it and suck it dry. They just want to make commissions on what they buy and sell for the suckers, err...clients..
Get this book: The Market Gurus: Stock Investing Strategies You Can Use from Wall Street's Best (Paperback)
by John P. Reese (Author), Todd O. Glassman
Risk avoidance is the name of the game.
Remember, the harder I work, the luckier I get.
Penny stocks are highly speculative. I would avoid the ones under a dollar a share. For example, Best Buy started at less than $5. So there are some good companies, but it takes a lot of digging to find the good ones. You are looking for companies with good earnings, little debt, low capitalization, and good P/Es. For stocks under $5, very few will meet these requirements.
Stay away from the pharms unless they have patented drugs - do not invest in generic pharms, no growth there.
Check out which business sectors are the most popular and invest in the companies in those sectors. The number one, two and three are: technology, health care, and cyclicals (retail). These change periodically so keep current.
Go here for a list of growth stocks: http://www.thestreet.com/_googlen/newsan...
There are these lists all over the Web - you pays your money and takes your chances.
Watch CNBC, but don't pay too much attention to the talking heads, except for Jim Cramer, the wild man - but he tries to teach you how to invest and has some great advice.
Get Jim Cramer's Real Money: Sane Investing in an Insane World by James J. Cramer
Listen to Jim Cramer on CNBC.com
Go to Clearstation for quotes and tutorials on investing at (http://clearstation.etrade.com/). Sign up is free. Look up a few stocks. Do their tutorials. Check out the sectors.
Get this book: Value Investing: From Graham to Buffett and Beyond (Wiley Finance) by Bruce C. N. Greenwald, Judd Kahn, Paul D. Sonkin, and Michael van Biema.
Another good book: The Motley Fool Investment Guide for Teens: 8 Steps to Having More Money Than Your Parents Ever Dreamed Of (Motley Fool) by David Gardner, Tom Gardner, and Selena Maranjian
Jim Cramer's Mad Money: Watch TV, Get Rich by James J. Cramer and Cliff Mason
I Want to Make Money in the Stock Market: Learn to Begin Investing Without Losing Your Life Savings! by Chris M. Hart\
Sensible Stock Investing: How to Pick, Value, and Manage Stocks by David P. Van Knapp
Stock Investing For Dummies (For Dummies (Business & Personal Finance)) by Paul Mladjenovic
All About Stock Market Strategies : The Easy Way To Get Started by David Brown and Kassandra Bentley
The Motley Fool Investment Guide and their Web site (http://www.fool.com/).
The Little Black Book of Microcap Investing: Beat the Market with NASDAQ/AMEX Microcap Stocks, OTCBB Penny Stocks, and Pink Sheet Stocks by Dan Holtzclaw
How To Make Money In Stocks: A Winning System in Good Times or Bad, 3rd Edition by William J. O'Neil
Trading for a Living: Psychology, Trading Tactics, Money Management by Alexander Elder
Big Trends in Trading: Strategies to Master Major Market Moves (A Marketplace Book) by Price Headley
Extraordinary Popular Delusions & the Madness of Crowds (Paperback)
by Charles Mackay (Author), Andrew Tobias (Foreword) This book talks about the Tulip craze in Holland where people would mortgage their homes to buy Tulip bulbs. Same thing happened in 2001 - 2002 with the Internet bubble that brought the stock market to its knees. The dot com companies were the Tulip bulbs.
Buy Investors Business Daily. It has lots of tutorials and I like it better than the stodgy Wall St Journal.
Money Game by Adam Smith
Common Stocks and Uncommon Profits and Other Writings (Wiley Investment Classics) (Hardcover)
by Philip A. Fisher. Recommended by Warren Buffet who took $100,000 and grew it to $34 billion!
Value Investing with the Masters by Kirk Kazanjian
Valuegrowth Investing by Glen Arnold
The 5 Keys to Value Investing by J. Dennis Jean-Jacques
The Intelligent Investor Rev Ed. (Collins Business Essentials) by Benjamin Graham. Warren Buffet was his student at Columbia.
The Money Masters by John Train
The Bogleheads' Guide to Investing by Taylor Larimore
Common Sense on Mutual Funds: New Imperatives for the Intelligent Investor by John C. Bogle
Why Smart People Make Big Money Mistakes And How To Correct Them: Lessons From The New Science Of Behavioral Economics by Gary Belsky
Rule #1: The Simple Strategy for Successful Investing in Only 15 Minutes a Week! by Phil Town . See his Web site at (http://www.ruleoneinvestor.com/). Free sign-up. I got the book at the library.
Listen. You don't have to spend a lot of money on these books - most can be found at your library and those that your library doesn't have they can usually get from other libraries in your state.
Most of these books talk about stock and mutual fund investing, but for a good introduction to other forms of investing Gerald Appel has a great book called Opportunity Investing - How to Profit When Stock Advance, Stocks decline, Inflation Run Rampant, Prices fall, Oil Prices Hit the Roof and Every Time In Between.
First, Break All the Rules: What the World's Greatest Managers Do Differently by Marcus Buckingham and Curt Coffman Not a book on investing, but it's a nice segue into the next book.
Now, Discover Your Strengths by Marcus Buckingham and Donald O. Clifton
Go Put Your Strengths to Work: 6 Powerful Steps to Achieve Outstanding Performance by Marcus Buckingham
Finding your strengths is important when investing. These books teach you to build on your strengths, what you a good at. Everyone is good or passionate about something. Why not get better at what you are good at?
Another good book is: Opportunity Investing: How To Profit When Stocks Advance, Stocks Decline, Inflation Runs Rampant, Prices Fall, Oil Prices Hit the Roof, ... and Every Time in Between (Hardcover)
by Gerald Appel
Most mutual funds do not even keep up the the return on the S&P. That's like 99% of them.
Vanguard Index funds are a no brainer.
A CD is better than a savings account. They range from six months to several years. You cannot touch your money tho until the time limit is up.
Check out this Web site on Direct Investment Plans where you can buy shares directly from companies: (http://www.fool.com/School/DRIPs.htm). Usually no fees and you can buy one share at a time.
Bonds are probably the safest. But they are not for the young. You might try a bond fund. They might return 5 or 6 percent. At 5% a million would return $50,000 a year - not a bad income. Remember, you have to pay taxes on the $50,000.
There are also municipal bonds and the income from them is taxfree especially if you buy them in a state that offers them, but they only pay about 3%, but it's mostly taxfree.
Look into Fidelity sector funds. Buy the top three, then in six months look how they are doing and if not so hot, select the next three that are best. Do this for a few years and you will make lots of money.
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P.S. This is a life-long learning process. Reading these books and applying the rules to analyzing stocks that may be good It takes time. Be patient and keep reading and listening. Don't be a sucker and follow someone elses advice. Be your own man or woman. Depend on no one except yourself. You can only get smarter and stronger that way.
P.P.S. Internet has lots of good stuff, for example (http://stockcharts.com/school/doku.php?i...
Stockcharts.com is very good and their discussion of MACD is one of the best, barring its originator, Gerald Apple, but now we are getting into Technical Analysis and that is not for beginners. But it is an important factor in finding good stocks that are going up and growing. Remember, tiny acorns grow into mighty oaks. better stock to buy for long term say 20 years is GE .WHICH IS NOT ONLY BIGGER IN SIZE BUT ALSO HAVE DOUBLE NET PROFIT MARGIN.
ALSO GE OPERATES IN MORE BUSINESS AREAS THAN TOYOTA SO IT WILL NOT EASY TO COMPETE GE , IN THE SENSE TAT GE ENJOYS MORE MONOPOLY THAN TOYOTA Interesting question. The problem is that 20 years is a very long time. What appears as possibly a best buy today, 5 years from now may not appear so good. GE is certainly more diversified than Toyota. That in itself is worth something. The main problem with both of these companies is that they are so large that it is doubtful either can grow any faster than the world economies that support them. Toyota also is under the threat of lower cost car producers in other countries. Twenty years from now they may be sitting in the same boat that Ford and GM find themselves today. On that basis alone I would have to go with GE, but if it were me I would be looking elsewhere for a 20 year investment. That's very difficult to say. Many many things will happen over the next 20 years that none of us can predict which will have a big effect on which stock does best. If you're asking this question because you're planning to invest your retirement account money in one or the other of them, then I think it's a mistake to buy either one. Though probably not likely, it's possible that either company could fall on hard times and end up being a losing investment. My opinion is that one should never invest a substantial amount of your money (i.e. more than 5-10%) in any one stock.
If I had money to invest for a 20-year horizon, I'd choose an index-based mutual fund (e.g. one that mirrors the S&P 500 or Russell 2000) or buy an exchange traded fund (ETF) that is linked to those indexes (e.g. ticker symbol SPY or IWM). By investing in a diversified set of stocks like you get in a mutual fund or ETF, you eliminate the risk of any one company going bad. Both have impressive potential..because they ARE adapting to the energy crisis/global warming problems in a positive way...but...twenty years?
I'm almost of the opinion that those kind of stock picks are over.. just too much change in the world for any one company to be on top for long, long term.
You could buy a little of both...plus an equal amount invested in a broad- based ( U.S. and global ) fund... but still, all three would need adjustments 5,7 and 10 years down the road.( The fund manager would be doing your "adapting-to-change"),
so...in the long run that may be your best play...( most likely any fund would include those two stocks for years to come) |
